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Hey everybody! Sorry about the post last night. ): I just had a EVERYTHING BAD IS HAPPENING AT ONCE combined with I AM PRETTY DRUNK AND ALSO WITHOUT ANYONE TO CUDDLE RN kind of night. But earlier in the night was all kinds of wonderful! Thanks to everyone who commented. <3333[Poll #1759245]And even if there is no interest in doing some kind of support group, I am going to try to do at least weekly updates of my own goals/progress/lack of progress, etc. Because having an audience helps. :P

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Date: 2011-07-06 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gutsparfait.livejournal.com
It is always helpful to have support. I would like to, because I need to start taking care of myself more, but I have issues with my body and weight so I'm trying to stay away from the numbers of calories in food at the moment. Going to have to think about it :).

Date: 2011-07-06 01:46 pm (UTC)
cantarina: donna noble in a paper crown, looking thoughtful (Default)
From: [personal profile] cantarina
First of all, that icon is truly disgusting, but I can't actually look away. Ugh. Gross.

Second! I've always made a point of staying away from calorie counting (it's always struck me as something I could get really unhealthily obsessed with), so you wouldn't be alone in ignoring that aspect of it and focusing on other aspects of eating well for you.

Date: 2011-07-06 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gutsparfait.livejournal.com
I like my icon. I find that comment to be rather rude, especially since I do not know you and therefore cannot see how it contributes to your comment.

I may just try and stick to portion control or something.

Date: 2011-07-06 02:35 pm (UTC)
cantarina: donna noble in a paper crown, looking thoughtful (dw - martha martha martha)
From: [personal profile] cantarina
Re-reading that, it is really rude. I'm sorry.

Good luck with portion control or whatever approach you decide to take!

Date: 2011-07-06 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gutsparfait.livejournal.com
That's okay :).

Good luck to you, too!

Date: 2011-07-06 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
Linking to my response to [Bad username or site: @ livejournal.com].

this is uber-long; I am so sorry

Date: 2011-07-06 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
Right, I totally understand. Body/food/and weight are all sensitive issues for a lot of people (including me!). So in no way would this be a "You must eat x calories every day" kind of thing, because that would be awful and unhelpful.

I was thinking about it last night, and how a comm would ideally work would be, you set some kind of goal or goals. It could be anything as specific and measurable as, "lose x pounds" or "get to a size y" or "get my BMI to z" or "participate in a 5k race". Or it could just be something like, "eat more fruits and veggies," "be less winded when I walk three flights of stairs" or "learn to salsa dance" or "walk everyday" or "I'm happy with my current weight but I'd really like to have more energy at the end of the day so I'm going to try to eat better." Or something else! Or some combination of the above!

And then once you've made your goal(s), there'd have a weekly check in where you would just say what you're doing in terms of meeting your goal. And that could be something like accounting for how many calories you consumed over the course of the week and how much and what kind of exercise you did each day complete with graphs and charts and paragraphs of analyses. Or you could just say, I ate 12 more pieces of fruit and much less candy than I normally do and feel more energetic. And some weeks you could do charts and graphs and detailed analyses, and some weeks you can just say, "well I walked every day" or "I started controlling my portions by eating with a smaller plate". Whatever works for you.

It would most likely be optional to share check ins with the comm at large. This is very much about having a way for you to keep track of whatever you feel needs keeping track of. And then you have the comm there as a support group. So there would be, like, (and this is all hypothetical at this point), twice-weekly posts where everyone talks about how they're feeling/doing/bitch and moan/swap tips/share stories, etc. And there would probably be other non-fitness related posts and activities, like Friday Night Movie Nights or something just so we can all be friends and really build a sense of community. It's definitely something I'd have to think about if there's an interest in a comm. And I'd vet any potential rules/schedules/etc with my f'list first.

If you have any thoughts on all this, I'd be super interested to hear them. Obviously I don't know the best way to be an active, healthy person, so I'm kind of hoping this is something a lot of us can muddle through together.

Re: this is uber-long; I am so sorry

Date: 2011-07-06 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gutsparfait.livejournal.com
I think saying eat more than X calories can be helpful for some if they are choosing to watch calories, but it should be a personal choice. For myself I make it so I must eat everyday, but am able to choose how much. It gives me a healthier sense of control and keeps my weight stable.

Personally I love the idea of goals, since they can all be personal, but also be something achievable and everyone can support each other in them. I also think that informing others of them can help to keep people focused. Mine would be improving stamina and getting some abs, since it is just something I've also wanted. I like the idea of a weekly check in, too that can be as detailed as someone likes.

I would say that measurements can be a useful way of checking progress, since BMI and weight doesn't take into a person's structure or muscle etc. I'm personally not that much of a fan of it.

The optional check in sounds good. I think that everyone if possible should try to say one achievement they had no matter how small, so maybe a weekly post for that would be good? Then if people want to do a personal post they can and have their name tagged in those posts. I think building a sense of community is good, it can make people feel more at ease when participating :).

I know there are tumblrs (referred to as fitblrs) I can link to and some other posts around that give advice on what to do. I picked up most things there. Might be useful for where to start?

http://findingthinagain.tumblr.com
http://valerycalorie.tumblr.com
http://fitnessinablog.tumblr.com
http://hopjumpskip.tumblr.com
http://under400.tumblr.com (food but can be useful to find food choices)
http://justfivemore.tumblr.com
http://happyhealthyslim.tumblr.com

Date: 2011-07-06 01:39 pm (UTC)
cantarina: donna noble in a paper crown, looking thoughtful (Default)
From: [personal profile] cantarina
Your timing is excellent. I'm trying really really hard to get back into good habits all around, including walking every day, which has been the most effective exercise promise I've made myself in a while. Definitely, enthusiastically in!

Date: 2011-07-06 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
:D Huzzah!

Walking every day is such a good promise. I remember as a kid my mom would periodically set that goal, and I always loved tagging along. WALKING <3333

Date: 2011-07-06 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] familiardevil.livejournal.com
WE SHOULD DO IT, TBH.

Private comm sounds the best to me ^___^

omg thirty minutes is more than I ever realized ): Like I did it two weeks ago and I was all FFFFFFFFFFFFF ): WHY DOES IT LAST FOREVER?
But listening to Heather's Jon/Robb mix makes is fun! Except I end up running to the beats and pushing myself to hard /o\

Date: 2011-07-06 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
wamt online tbh

Date: 2011-07-09 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
LOL WE WILL HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIRTY MINUTES MANAGEABLE.

Also, I totally want to do some kind of post or something where everyone shares music that they like to work out to.

Date: 2011-07-06 07:16 pm (UTC)
lavendergaia: (Jared yes)
From: [personal profile] lavendergaia
I have recently started doing just this, but I find the longer I've been at it, the more I cheat and I'm really only cheating myself, so I'm always up for it.


(Though what I do to trick myself into doing the recommended amount of working out is to split it in two small bursts. If I spend too long on my excercise bike, my butt goes totally numb but if I do like one small spurt of 15-30 minutes in the morning and one before bed, then I've gotten it done and don't feel like I wasted so much time up there.)

Date: 2011-07-09 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
Exactly! I make promises to myself all the time, but they never really stick. So I think doing it with people may help.

Ah! That's a really good tip. I will have to steal it.

Date: 2011-07-06 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourpony.livejournal.com
I've been trying to step up my working out since I lost my job but it's kind of fallen flat with 100F+ weather.

Date: 2011-07-09 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
That is one of the things I do not miss about Texas. ): GOOD LUCK BB. I TOTALLY BELIEVE IN YOU.

Date: 2011-07-07 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com
My mom sent me money to buy a gym membership again because I was putting it off. Ratner's open during the summer and if you want to go swimming ever I would love a swimming (or elliptical? I have never tried it but people tell me they're fun) buddy - I have a hard time motivating myself, but it's more fun with other people. So yeah! Even if you do not want to go swimming with me, I like the sound of a support group type thing! :)

Date: 2011-07-07 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
No! We should totally be swim/elliptical buddies. Though, um, I have not been into Ratner since fitness testing during o-week. BUT HAVING A PARTNER WILL GIVE ME INCENTIVE TO GO. Also, I don't own a bathing suit. Would it be cool to go swimming in gym shorts and a tshirt?

EITHER WAY WE SHOULD SET A DAY TO GO SWIMMING/ELLIPTICALING/GYMRATTING TOGETHER. HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE, YO.

Date: 2011-07-07 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com
I dunno if they let you do shorts and a tshirt, some pools have rules against that but some are cool with it.
I've never done ellipticals but one of the main attractions it has is that you can use your ipod on it! It drives me crazy that I can't while swimming, because laps get really boring by yourself.

LET US SET A DAY, would you prefer the weekend or an evening during the week?

Date: 2011-07-07 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
Weekends work better for me! I am generally pretty tired at the end of the day. Saturday or Sunday?

Also lol ): *has no iPod anymore*

Date: 2011-07-08 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com
Weekends might be bad for me, actually, since [livejournal.com profile] gold_bluepoint and I visit back and forth on weekends. I can come like half the time for sure. But maybe not this weekend. I'll let you know!

that lol was the saddest of lols :( :( :( *pets*

Date: 2011-07-09 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
That's fine! I could probably manage Mondays and Thursdays pretty easily as well. We could pick one and make it our working out/making dinner/writing battle evening. I LIKE TO HAVE A SCHEDULE. ;__;

Date: 2011-07-11 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com
I also like to have a schedule! especially when it means we get to hang out on a regular basis :D! yay thank you for bending to my wafflishness. How about Mondays? :D? I like the sound of Mondays. I'll text you tomorrow when I get off work and we'll talk :)

Date: 2011-07-11 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
Mondays in general will work! But not tomorrow Monday because I am picking familiar up from the airport at 7:30.

Date: 2011-07-11 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com
YAY AWW YOU GUYS! :DD Then another Monday! awww yee have fun!

Date: 2011-07-07 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wutendeskind.livejournal.com
I told myself I was gonna go to the gym this summer (we have one in my apartment complex, but it's small and usually busy and so I feel like I'm being watched), but then I found out I have to pay to use the campus gym over the summer because I'm not registered for classes. GDI.

Date: 2011-07-09 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
That's what I hate about all gyms. ): The sense of being watched and judged by people way more fit than me.

Date: 2011-07-07 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feathertofly.livejournal.com
This is brilliant! I definitely could use a support group to hold me to my shit. I like the idea of it being a locked comm and everyone being upfront about our goals, with lots of encouragement and personal attention. LET'S DO IT, GIRLFRIEND.

Date: 2011-07-09 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
:D YAY! I'm so glad you're enthusiastic about it. ^___^ I've made the comm; now I just need to set up the structure and everything.

Date: 2011-07-08 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animus-wyrmis.livejournal.com
I THINK YOU SHOULD SWIM. I SWIM. SWIMMING IS LIKE AWESOME. YOU SHOULD GET A SWIMSUIT BECAUSE EVERYONE NEEDS ONE, AND MAKE SURE YOU WARM UP BEFORE YOU TRY THE BUTTERFLY BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU WILL FUCK YOUR ARMS/SHOULDERS UP. /experience

Also, no diving into less than eleven feet of water, and no pushing other people. /lifeguard

I would be interested in this as well. I need to stop eating crap and actually do swimming and things. :( Email might be easiest for me? Idk. I am a little iffy on like publicly doing this stuff? Because idk food/body issues, I have them, idk. But I think it would be good because I am always out of shape and I eat like crap and I should drop like twenty pounds AND THINGS.

So, uh, yes.

<3333333333

Date: 2011-07-09 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
I hate buying swimsuits though. ): If I wanted to cry in a dressing room... Well. I just don't want to cry in a dressing room. I don't understand why gym shorts and a tshirt are not adequate swimwear.

I like pushing other people though. And pulling their feet down.

General consensus seems to be a locked comm. I'm going to post the rules/structures here later today or tomorrow for people to vet, and that should give you an idea if this is something you'd want to join. I am going to try to make it as safe and supportive a space as possible. Because I totally get body and food issues.

HOWEVER. If you don't want to join, you and I can always do some kind of email thing. Since I am going to be keeping track of all of this stuff anyway.

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Date: 2011-07-10 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animus-wyrmis.livejournal.com
D: They drag, bb.

What I do is figure out my approximate size and then order online and send things back if they don't fit. (I really like swimoutlet.com because they are cheap.) And then I usually wear pants over my suit until I am ready to swim. :////

OH MY GOD DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR LIFEGUARD CRY. ::frowny face::

<3333333 Well, I'll watch it until I figure out what y'all are going to do. :)

Date: 2011-07-09 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cackling-madly.livejournal.com
Just saw your other post about this. Like you, I recently made a decision to try to get healthy and work out but motivation is a huge problem for me. A comm like this would be such a help. Yay! for supporting each other! :D

Date: 2011-07-09 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
:D Excellent! And yes, I think a lot of people make periodic goals to get healthier, but the lack of support is hard. ): And it's really intimidating (and expensive!) sometimes to go to groups that exist ~in the real world~

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