5.10 Rant Rant Ranty McRantpants

[coyotesuspect]

Okay, I'm probably going to delete this later and offer up a better reaction, because I really enjoyed the episode as a whole. Rant's staying up. My reaction is my reaction. (And, I'd like to reiterate, I thought this was a great episode. I still have issues.)

However.

Can we talk about how much Supernatural sucks with women?

Because. Ugh. I knew there were going to be two deaths. And I was pretty sure one of them was going to be Ellen. And fine, all right. Whatever.

But then, we kill off Ellen and Jo. Because, really, women are only good for sacrifice! And unless they're sacrificing themselves for men, they're evil temptresses who are leading you into sin and darkness!

Yes. It was a great scene. It was heart-wrenching and beautiful and I bawled.

But. Then we get that scene in the cemetery, where Lucifer's all, "Oh, I was very merciful. One demon for every able-bodied man."

SHOW. SHOW. DO YOU EVEN REALIZE WHAT YOU JUST SAID? DO YOU REALLY LACK THAT MUCH SELF AWARENESS?

I am just so fucking mad right now, and what makes it even worse is that this was such a great episode. BUT SHOW'S SKEEVY FUCKING GENDER ISSUES ARE GETTING IN THE FUCKING WAY.

I mean, Supernatural has some wonderful female characters. They're compelling. They're beautiful. They're strong. They're intelligent. AND THEN THEY'RE ALL EVIL OR DEAD OR BOTH.

Ugh. On the other hand, Castiel grew on me a lot. And can I just say, Castiel/Meg? UNF. I SHIP IT. I SHIP IT.

Right. It's done. It's out of my system. Though, I think I'm gonna have to sign up for spn_women out of spite now.

Oh, also. Does anyone have a clue what happened in the end? One moment, Sam and Dean are in the cemetery, and Castiel's creeping around (such a creeper this ep, omg Cas), and Lucifer's summoning Death (also, SHOW. Dozens of Reapers and no Tessa? I'd be mad, except YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE KILLED HER OFF IF SHE HAD SHOWN UP), and then commercial break, and BAM! We're at Bobby's.

Did Castiel beam them out? If so, where the hell is he? WHAT IS GOING ON?

Previews for after the hiatus look super-interesting. I can't believe we have to wait that long though. : /

tl;dr: Ellen and Jo were both amazing this episode. They were great characters, and I adored them both, and I'll miss them greatly. *curls up with No Exit. * That's right, No Exit.

I'm out.

Comments

[stubbel.livejournal.com]

Ugh. On the other hand, Castiel grew on me a lot.

IT'S DONE! :D

Anyway, I enjoyed the episode A LOT. I don't know what it's about this hopeless, apocalyptic setting but I seem to get kicks out of it. *headdesk*

And you're SO right about the whole Supernatural-women thing. :( It's probably one of the show's weakest points and it bugs the hell out of me. ><
I think I mentioned this before in that angel-falling/torture discussion comment but I think Lucifer is pretty much still stuck in the past so I can chalk his line about "women and children before men" up to him being an angel and practically out of the world for a looooong time.

Doesn't change that Supernatural + Women = Fail

About that weird scene-change at the end; I'm pretty sure Cas beamed them out.
He went to go on a date (coffee and chocolate cake) with Meg afterward, clearly that's why he wasn't around. ;)

I WILL MISS ELLEN AND JO, I LOVED THEM SO MUCH ;_;

[coyotesuspect.livejournal.com]

Hey, hey, I said grew on me. Let's not jump to hasty conclusions or anything here. :P

He actually was growing on me a lot earlier this season, and then he made that comment to Sam in "the Children Are Our Future" and he lost all the ground he'd made up. ):

But I really appreciated his loyalty this episode.

*warily draws non-sparkly, somewhat small hearts around him*

Ahaha, I don't think my objection to the Lucifer line was clear. So I'll just cp what I said to [Bad username or site: @ livejournal.com]:

My problem isn't that Lucifer killed off all the women and children. He's evil, I get it.

My problem is, we're supposed to see Lucifer killing off all the women as proof that he is a Bad Guy. Yet, show goes and kills off all the women too.

So, Lucifer killing off all the women = omg, he' so evil!
the writers killing off all the women = what, exactly?

It's either an extreme lack of self-awareness, or a really horrible sense of humor.

I like the idea of Cas going out on a date with Meg very much. He had to be a gentleman and apologize for using her as a bridge.

I WILL MISS THEM TOO. <3