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I keep thinking I have a fic to post, and then I realize I haven't finished editing yet.

Oh. And I'm feeling nostalgic. So, please rec me your favorite Sirius/Remus fics? :D Any era, happy or sad, long or short. Just don't rec the Shoebox Project. Not because it isn't great, but because it's kind of obvious. And I am still slightly bitter that it was never finished. Feel free to rec your own stories as well.

ETA:[livejournal.com profile] familiardevil  explained it to me the other day, but I have since forgotten. How do I make my posts appear on a white, plain background as opposed to looking like my lay out? Thanks!

ETA 2: Question answered!

Date: 2010-02-23 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
Yes, you should!

But I don't know if that's a function of the Apocalypse. I think since season 2- WIAWSNB- we've gotten the sense from Dean that he does want more than a hunting life. (Though at the same time he, sadly, doesn't see himself as deserving it. re: the alcoholism). Really, I think Dean's desire for "normal" stems from the events of late season 1/early season 2 when the "normal" he'd created for himself/wanted for so long got stripped away. Whereas for Sam, he began to care more about the hunting life and less about normal in mid/late season 2 when it started being more about his redemption-- and then took on tones of keeping Dean safe after the end of season 3. So these themes of "what they really want in life" have been in play for longer than this season. I'm interested in how the conflict will eventually be resolved; it's one that's much more long term and subtle than, "You're weak." vs. "You're selfish."

For the first time ever, it really can be about saving people, hunting things and not have it be laced with revenge and destiny and regret and all kinds of other bad things.
This is what I want to. *g* Though I don't agree about buying the house, necessarily. I don't see why you have to have a place to have a home.

(Yay thinky thoughts!)

Date: 2010-02-23 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wutendeskind.livejournal.com
I completely agree with everything you've said. I don't see Dean wanting "normal" as a function of the Apocalypse at all. In fact, I think it's the Apocalypse that convinces him that not only will he never get normal, but he won't ever get anything at all. I meant it more from a writing standpoint. Like, Dean started to want "normal," but now he doesn't think he'll live long enough to even start going about getting this "normal" life, so where do you take two characters who don't imagine a future for themselves, you know?

I don't see why you have to have a place to have a home.
Because curtains look silly in cars. And yes, that is almost entirely the extent of my logic on that one.

Date: 2010-02-23 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
I think Dean's always believed that though. Sam's the one who had to be convinced. But I do think Dean still wants/kind of secretly believes Sam can have that. (Or at least he did back in Wishful Thinking; things have rather changed since then). Though I do agree that the Apocalypse has really hammered the point home that he's really, really never getting his happily after.

so where do you take two characters who don't imagine a future for themselves, you know
To the future of course! :D That's why I'm so excited about season 6. I want to see how this conflict gets resolved, and what the boys do once they no longer have to do it.

(also, I think somewhere in this is an essay about Dean as following a fundamentally Kantian philosophy.)

Because curtains look silly in cars
*snorts* Fair enough!

Also, do you mind if I link this at spnland_media to kind of give people an idea of what qualifies as "meta"-y. Because I think a lot of people are intimidated and don't realize that fleshing out convos with friends will totally count.

Date: 2010-02-23 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wutendeskind.livejournal.com
Dean still wants/kind of secretly believes Sam can have that
I actually had that as part of my "Three facts that are true for a certain character" meme for Dean. I think he does a lot of the things he does with the hope that it means Sam, who is to Dean less messed up and more deserving of "normal," will get to have the white picket fence and 1.7 kids. Even if that's not what Sam actually wants anymore.

No, go right ahead! Meta definitely is a little intimidating. :D

Date: 2010-02-23 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
I think a lot (if not most) of the boys' action are largely motivated by what they want for each other, and not necessarily what they want for themselves or what the other wants for himself (if that way of wording it makes any sense- like Dean is motivated by what he wants for Sam, and not by what Dean wants for Dean or what Sam wants for Sam).

It's part of what made season 4 so tragic. ;___;

Thanks bb! :D

Date: 2010-02-25 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
Because curtains look silly in cars. And yes, that is almost entirely the extent of my logic on that one.

CURTAINS, OLIVIA. This made my night. You are the light of my lifeee.

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