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OH HAY. BACK FROM CAMP. HAD A BLAST. SLEPT LIKE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS A NIGHT.  AM EXHAUSTED.   HEARTBROKEN OVER WORLD CUP.  HAVE STARTED WATCHING AMERICAN MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER. HAVE WRITTEN OVER 4000 WORDS SINCE COMING HOME.[Poll #1588493]

My argument: Remus/Sirius.

Both have awful childhoods. As a couple (if you accept that they're a couple), they're broken apart by distrust during a time in which all their friends are dying, spend most of their adult lives alone- one as a prisoner in Azkaban, the other poverty stricken and ostracized by society, only, after being briefly reunited, to both die relatively young. Sam/Dean, at least, still have the possibility of a happy ending, and, since they're the heroes of their text, are pretty likely to get that happy ending.

[livejournal.com profile] cherie_morte  's argument: Sam/Dean (as summarized by me! So possibly unfair/limited. Let me know if you want to add/rewrite anything bb)

Fucking your brother isn't a happy ending. At least Remus and Sirius end up in an afterworld that is posited as being pretty cool and happy. Sam and Dean's  lives are unremittingly bleak and tragic. Neither of them have a childhood, every time they have something good, it's ripped away from them. They're forced to watch the most important person in their life (each other) die or betray them again and again. Also? the S5 season finale.

ALSO. I HAVE JUST REALIZED, TONKS=LISA, TEDDY=BEN. SIRIUS WANTED REMUS TO HAVE A CHANCE AT HAPPINESS. *flail* *spazz*


 

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Date: 2010-07-06 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
FUCK THAT NOISE.

YOU DON'T OWN ME.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] radiophile
REMUS/SIRIUS

BECAUSE THEY BOTH DIE :'( ... LIKE, FOR REAL lolol death is never permanent for Sam and Dean :P

Also I'm still holding out for a happy ending (lol no shut up for srs) for Sam and Dean~

Date: 2010-07-06 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
THIS. THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. REMUS AND SIRIUS JUST DIE. ): AND MAYBE THE AFTERLIFE IS COOL AND ALL THAT. BUT STILL. DEAD.

And Sam and Dean are totally going to have a happy ending. I just know it. *believes*

Date: 2010-07-06 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
*looks at collar*

What am I going to do with this then?

Date: 2010-07-06 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
EVERYBODY VOTE FOR SAM AND DEAN OR IMMA FUCKING KILL YOU.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
*wavers*

NO. DAMMIT. NO. I'M NOT FUCKING FALLING FOR THIS SHIT AGAIN. FUCK YOU.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
STOP INVALIDATING MY POLL WITH YOUR ANTIDEMOCRATIC WAYS, YOU TRAITOR.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
*wibble*

No one's ever accused me of not loving my country before. ;__;

Date: 2010-07-06 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] radiophile
EVERYTHING IS SO MUCH MORE CONVINCING WHEN SAID WITH SPARKLY UNICORNS D:

Date: 2010-07-06 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
Fine. I'll guess I'll go return my nurse's costume too then.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
You and McCarthy will share a pain, bb.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE:

YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR VOTE AND THEN I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
HOW CAN YOU BE SO CRUEL?

Date: 2010-07-06 09:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scorpiod1.livejournal.com
I'd have to say Remus/Sirius because they never really got a chance to be happy with one another. Sam and Dean had each other for most of their lives, they get that. But Sirius and Remus had their time together cut short by war, then seperated by Azakaban for 12 years, then had a very small amount of time together before one died. :( It makes me a sad Scorp.

Sorry, Cherie.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
YOU PEOPLE SUCK.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
MWPP ERA. HAPPY. SO FUCKING HAPPY. HAPPY ON A LEVEL THAN SAM AND DEAN WILL LITERALLY NEVER EXPERIENCE NO MATTER HOW MUCH EVERYTHING GOES IN THEIR FAVOR BECAUSE IT'S TOO LATE FOR THEM.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
FIREWORKS ARE PATRIOTIC. LOVE YOUR COUNTRY. VOTE WITH YOUR HEART.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] radiophile
YES, and omg don't get me started on all the years of rotting away in Azkaban Sirius had to endure :( HIS TEETH WERE RUINED as were his dashing good looks lol okay now I'm just being shallow, but FOR SRS, even 12-year-old me thought it was the most tragic thing EVER for Sirius to be locked away like that after having his best friend murdered by his other friend and all the while thinking his boyfriend did it :'''(

... Just realized Dean was in HELL for forty years which I guess kinda makes Azkaban seem like a cake walk, buuuuut Show has done a really shitty job of showing us the true effects of surviving Hell so, uh. Yeah. BASED ON CANON, Sirius/Remus is a million times more tragic than Sam/Dean. Because the SPN canon is all over the place (thanks to lazy writing and retcon) whereas HP all comes from JKR's glorious brain.

BUT if we were going to bring fandom into it... Man idk. Sam/Dean fics make me cry like no other ;_;

Date: 2010-07-06 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
YOU'RE A COMMUNIST, COYOTESUSPECT.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
BUT EVEN THEN YOU HAVE REMUS BEING A WEREWOLF AND SIRIUS'S AWFUL FAMILY AND THE PRANK AND THERE IS A WAR GOING ON OUTSIDE.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
YES, BUT THEY ARE COMPLETE ENOUGH HUMAN BEINGS TO BE ABLE TO FIND HAPPINESS THROUGH THAT. SAM AND DEAN WILL NEVER BE THAT COMPLETE. DUDE. THEIR HAPPY ENDING IS FUCKING THEIR BROTHER. THAT IS THE SADDEST THING FUCKING EVER.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotesuspect.livejournal.com
Shockingly, you are not the first person to accuse me of this. ): Even my cute RA has said it before.

BUT AMERICA DOES NOT REPRESENT THE CAPITALIST ENDEAVOR. IT SYMBOLIZES FOR A REPUBLICAN DEMOCRACY FOUNDED ON THE IDEALS OF EQUALITY AND LIBERTY.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] radiophile
B-BUT SAM/DEAN MAKE ME SO HAPPY... ;_;

Date: 2010-07-06 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scorpiod1.livejournal.com
AND HOW LONG DID THAT LAST? A FEW YEARS? BEFORE THE WAR HAPPENED AND THEY ALL HAD TO GO FIGHT IT? IT WAS SMALL MOMENT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THEIR LIVES. 12 YEARS APART. REMUS THOUGHT SIRIUS WAS A TRAITOR.

Sam and Dean will never have that kind of happiness but they've always had each other. They've always been together. The longest they've been apart was 4 years, and that was because one was happy at college, NOT BECAUSE THE WAR FUCKED THEM ALL OVER.

Date: 2010-07-06 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
ME TOO.

BUT HALF THE REASON I NAVIGATED TOWARDS WINCEST AS MY OTP INSTEAD OF REMUS/SIRIUS WAS BECAUSE THE WINCEST ANGST IS YUMMIER.

COYOTE IS TRYING TO SINK MY SHIP.
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