When the war is over...
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I had some (very, very) brief musings about the Winchester Chain of Sacrifice (and Sam's role in it).
No, this is not another rant about Last Night. That's gonna be up this evening. (You think I'm kidding)
Okay, regarding sacrifice. It's pretty typical of the whole epic, hero's journey that secondary characters sacrifice themselves for the hero, so that the hero may eventually sacrifice himself for everybody. (See: Harry Potter).
On Supernatural, we have all kinds of sacrifices, but I'm mainly interested in the Winchester ones. John sacrifices himself for Dean. Dean sacrifices himself for Sam. And poor Sam, try as he might, isn't given the chance to sacrifice himself for Dean. Apparently sacrifice is a one way street.
So, this wouldn't bode well for Sam's future- obviously all these sacrifices happened so Sam could eventually sacrifice himself! Except, what about Mary?
Mary's was the original sacrifice; she sacrificed to save John. But she didn't sacrifice her life; she sacrificed Sam.
Obviously, she didn't do it in so many words. That YED was gonna be coming back to collect her child was more understood than explicit (if I recall correctly; it's been some time since I've seen the episode). And it's always seemed to me to be something of a Rumpelstiltskin type deal.
So what does this mean? If Sam is a sacrifice, is he capable of sacrificing himself? Is Kripke gonna do some horrible "balance" shit like have Sam sacrifice himself for selfless reasons, as opposed to Mary sacrificing Sam for selfish (albeit completely understandable) reasons? I don't think Show will kill off Sam and not Dean, but I am worried that Sam will be called upon to make some kind of final, ultimate sacrifice.
What think you guys?
Mary--(Sam)-->John--(life)-->Dean--(life)-->Sam--(???)-->(???)
On Supernatural, we have all kinds of sacrifices, but I'm mainly interested in the Winchester ones. John sacrifices himself for Dean. Dean sacrifices himself for Sam. And poor Sam, try as he might, isn't given the chance to sacrifice himself for Dean. Apparently sacrifice is a one way street.
So, this wouldn't bode well for Sam's future- obviously all these sacrifices happened so Sam could eventually sacrifice himself! Except, what about Mary?
Mary's was the original sacrifice; she sacrificed to save John. But she didn't sacrifice her life; she sacrificed Sam.
Obviously, she didn't do it in so many words. That YED was gonna be coming back to collect her child was more understood than explicit (if I recall correctly; it's been some time since I've seen the episode). And it's always seemed to me to be something of a Rumpelstiltskin type deal.
So what does this mean? If Sam is a sacrifice, is he capable of sacrificing himself? Is Kripke gonna do some horrible "balance" shit like have Sam sacrifice himself for selfless reasons, as opposed to Mary sacrificing Sam for selfish (albeit completely understandable) reasons? I don't think Show will kill off Sam and not Dean, but I am worried that Sam will be called upon to make some kind of final, ultimate sacrifice.
What think you guys?
Mary--(Sam)-->John--(life)-->Dean--(life)-->Sam--(???)-->(???)
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Date: 2009-11-20 06:35 pm (UTC)I think it's pretty unlikely they will go there but if they would it would probably be God's Plan or something. Sam has to show himself worthy and if he does that saves the world...
Like Dean's life vs. the world and which will Sam choose?
But he wouldn't be able to do the right thing, now would he? Because no matter what, Sam chooses Dean (he always will. He chooses to be selfish.
Huh. That would actually make a cool ending (at least my sick brain thinks so *headdesk*). Sam choosing Dean and everything ending because of that.
Also, Winchester Beauty Salon? YOU WIN THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD! xD
Ehm, I just reread this and realized that it doesn't really make any sense. Sorry for that... ^^°°
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Date: 2009-11-20 06:38 pm (UTC)Because apparently my brain hears "Selfish Sam" and "Sacrifising" and immediatley jumps to Dean. *drop*
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Date: 2009-11-21 07:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-11-21 07:12 pm (UTC)...I would kind of like that too. >>