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OH HAY. BACK FROM CAMP. HAD A BLAST. SLEPT LIKE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS A NIGHT.  AM EXHAUSTED.   HEARTBROKEN OVER WORLD CUP.  HAVE STARTED WATCHING AMERICAN MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER. HAVE WRITTEN OVER 4000 WORDS SINCE COMING HOME.[Poll #1588493]

My argument: Remus/Sirius.

Both have awful childhoods. As a couple (if you accept that they're a couple), they're broken apart by distrust during a time in which all their friends are dying, spend most of their adult lives alone- one as a prisoner in Azkaban, the other poverty stricken and ostracized by society, only, after being briefly reunited, to both die relatively young. Sam/Dean, at least, still have the possibility of a happy ending, and, since they're the heroes of their text, are pretty likely to get that happy ending.

[livejournal.com profile] cherie_morte  's argument: Sam/Dean (as summarized by me! So possibly unfair/limited. Let me know if you want to add/rewrite anything bb)

Fucking your brother isn't a happy ending. At least Remus and Sirius end up in an afterworld that is posited as being pretty cool and happy. Sam and Dean's  lives are unremittingly bleak and tragic. Neither of them have a childhood, every time they have something good, it's ripped away from them. They're forced to watch the most important person in their life (each other) die or betray them again and again. Also? the S5 season finale.

ALSO. I HAVE JUST REALIZED, TONKS=LISA, TEDDY=BEN. SIRIUS WANTED REMUS TO HAVE A CHANCE AT HAPPINESS. *flail* *spazz*


 

Date: 2010-07-06 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-kizu.livejournal.com
I need my copy of HP book.

I would have said Remus/Sirius because they both die but in my opinion sometimes death isn't a bad thing. If you believe in life after death they could be together. They came together and all that. Sometimes even if things are short lived they can give you happiness, they can wipe away everything. They had each other in school and even though there is all that pain and betrayal they still were able to overcome that.

Sam/Dean on the otherhand could never have their relationship made valid, it would always be kept secret. It would have to be kept secret, taboo etc. One would always want happiness for the other because their minds are so skewered they can't really do middle ground I don't think.

Maybe they don't die but because I'm severely depressed and think about killing myself everyday I sometimes think living is the hardest thing to do because you keep on thinking, there is no peace there is no end no joy just more of the same. Dean pretty much watched the one person he would give anything for rip everything apart and betray and lie to him constantly, so Sam is left alone and even if they come together again Sam leaves again so soon. They can't say anything. They both suffer, and especially if you take into account that Kripke said there would be five seasons and if the finale was series finale well Dean has to live everyday thinking and wondering and all of that. They live for each other and not for themselves, and I don't think that is really a way to live. That is why I think Sam/Dean is more tragic.

Date: 2010-07-07 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangomango.livejournal.com
Dean pretty much watched the one person he would give anything for rip everything apart and betray and lie to him constantly, so Sam is left alone and even if they come together again Sam leaves again so soon.

Lol I think maybe you're a little biased? >.>

But I agree that Sam and Dean are a VERY TRAGIC UNHAPPY PAIRING, if only because of the events of S4 and S5 (in which BOTH PARTIES were gigantic, flaming jackasses -- although I save my real hate for the angels).

Date: 2010-07-07 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-kizu.livejournal.com
Biased in what way? I was writing this out pretty quickly so I couldn't place booth of them accurately. If I was there I'd bitch slap them both.

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